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In case anyone has forgotten

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Flip Side Politics

HuFlungPoo is the room owner of a new chat-room named Flip Side Politics. The room brags about being fair and balanced but in words only. The actions of the rooms admins are truly one sided and they will not allow a liberal to be an admin in the room, no matter what HuFlungPoo (yes the room owner) wants.

Mystic Sea Maiden was going to write about this new room to get it out there for chatters to know it existed, but after I sat there and watch how the room in 'controlled' I begged Mystic to allow me.

Mystic is a friend of HuFlungPoo and agreed she would not be able to be unbias in her description of Flip Side politics and we know I can be.

HuFlungPoo is the know male ho of paltalk, and he freely admits this is a rumor he has heard often and whenever a non-rightwing nut comes into the room and starts to debate, well just as in the current elections going on in the states the admins distracts from the topic and brings up how much of a 'ho' HuFlungPoo is.

HuFlungPoo wanted Mystic to be an admin in the room to lean some creditability to their claim of fair and balanced, well lordy lordy there was almost a mutiny.

"We can't have any leftists as admins"
"Yes, leftist are flaky"
"I don't know this Mystic"
"You want a room like Voo's?"
"You want a room like S_Links'?"

Mystic always the lady made things easy for HuFlungPoo and declined his invitation to be an admin in his room, with a warning his room would be tagged as a conservative nutso room if he didn't find some democrat or liberal to be an admin.

Fair and balanced as Fox News.

Now on to my personal opinion of Flip Side Politics, its a room full of stupidity and fear. The average IQ level in the room maybe 60 and that is mainly because of kelygurl being one of the admins and of course she has a high IQ, without her I would rate the IQ of room as 30. No issues are allowed to be debated unless it is in agreement with the admins of 'fairness'. And HuFlungPoo is the biggest whore on paltalk according to his admins.

If you need a laugh or a break from the reality of today's economy, politics, etc... this is the room. If you would like to take a peek into a world of insanity and fantasy this is the room for you.

Forewarning take in small doses.



































Fair and balanced just like Fox News.

ACORN HARD AT WORK AND NOT PARTISAN AT ALL.

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Chat Rooms Live

We all need to laugh especially in hard times so please enjoy this video

Chat Rooms - Live!

Wisdom from the Republicans

How about this profound quote from Representative John Kasich (R-Ohio) on why he should be the Republican presidential nominee.

"I think people are looking for someone who is of the people."

This is so true. But we haven't heard yet from the animal rights folks so we'll reserve final judgment.

shout to Bonehead

Where Is Our Thank You?

700 BILLION dollars, we the tax payers has given to corporate America, where is our Thank You? Also what happened to the world as we know it will collapse if the bail-out hadn't happened? Not one item of the bail out has been implemented and yet it seems that our credit cards, ATM cards and checks are still working.







Is corporate America feeling the pinch, of course they are, but Main Street has been feeling the pinch for over a year now and the government didn't seem to care then. Maybe since most of government is invested in corporate America , they didn't care that Joe and Jane American couldn't afford health insurance, college for their children, house payments, or the fact that Mr. & Mrs. American's retirement was flying out the window as corporate America's CEO's were making millions if not billions as rewards for screwing over Mr. & Mrs. American and their children.

Is it too much to ask for a Thank You? Just a 3 second Thank You Americans for bailing us out when we were all for letting you sink. How hard can that be?

Demand your Thank You, its the least they could do for 700 billion we gave them, don't you think?

~~~~~Forever A Facetious Pain~~~~

Very touching.

I usualy just say "Enjoy", but i just cant for this one.





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Acorn, non-partisan?

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Obama endorses a great American

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Great leader?

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OBAMA AND GUNS?

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On the campaign trail, Senator Obama hides behind carefully chosen words and vague statements of support for sportsmen and gun rights to sidestep and camouflage the truth. But even he can’t hide from the truth forever… his voting record, political associations, and long standing positions make it clear that, if elected, Barack Obama would be the most anti-gun president in American history. The facts speak for themselves. This election day, vote to defend freedom…because if Obama wins, you lose.





Obama voted to ban hundreds of rifles and shotguns commonly used for hunting and sport shootingIllinois Senate, SB 1195, 3/13/03

Obama endorsed a ban on all handgunsIndependent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, 9/9/96Politico, 03/31/08.

Obama voted to allow the prosecution of people who use a firearm for self-defense in their homes Illinois Senate, S.B. 2165, vote 20, 3/25/04

Obama supported increasing taxes on firearms and ammunition by 500 percent Chicago Defender, 12/13/99

Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting United States Senate, S. 397, vote 217, 7/29/05

Obama opposes Right-to-Carry lawsPittsburgh Tribune-Review, 4/2/08, Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04


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JOBS, a 3 letter word.

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TO THE Contributors.

LETS GET SOME POSTS GOING PEOPLE.

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Just a few facts

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The Obama Tidal Wave
We are witnessing a political phenomenon with Barack Obama of
rare magnitude.
His speeches have inspired millions and yet most of his followers
have no idea of what he stands for except platitudes of 'Change' or that he
says he will be a 'Uniter'.
The power of speech from a charismatic person truly can be a
powerful thing. Certainly Billy Graham had charisma. Both his manner of
speech and particularly the content changed mil lions.
On the extreme other hand, the charisma of Adolph Hitler, too,
inspired millions and the results were catastrophic.
Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for
many Americans riding on the Obama Tidal Wave it is just like a surfer who
might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, but the reality of
the ride is what happens when it hits shore.
Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama:
. He voted for partial birth abortion.
. He voted no on notifying parents o f minors who get
out-of-state abortions.
. Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government
(quotas)..
. In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing as being
too severe.
. Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum
wage affair.
. Admitted his use of marijuana and cocaine in high school and
in college.
. His religious convictions are very murky.
. He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung
Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
. Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would
be to have a conference with all muslim nations. Why?
. Opposed the Patriot Act.
. First bill he signed that was ever passed was campaign finance
reform.
&nb sp; . Voted to allow law suits against gun manufacturers.
. Supports universal health-care.
. Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees.
. Supports granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
. Supports exten ding welfare to illegal immigrants.
. Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.
. Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social
Security.
. Wants to make the minimum wage a 'living wage'.
. Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes. (241
votes Demo, 10 votes Republican)
. Is a big believer in the separation of church and state.
. Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead
supports increasing the amount of tax paid into Soc. Sec. Tax Increase.
. He voted No on re pealing the Alternative Minimum Tax which now
hits middle income brackets. Tax Increase.
. He voted No on repealing the 'Death' Tax. Tax Increase.
. He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax. Tax Increase...
&nb sp; . Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not
succeeded...which is not true.
. He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today
and that takes some doing.
If your political choices are consistent with Barack Obama's and
you think that his positions will bring America together or make it a better
place, then you will probably enjoy the ride and not forward this Email.
If you are like most Americans that after examining what he stands for, are
truly not in line with his record, it would be prudent to get off the wave
or better yet, never get on, before it comes on shore and undermines the
very foundations of this great Country. We have limited time to save
America or the Supreme Court as we know it.
Inaction is action.
If you agree this is important, pass it on. The mainstream media
will not do it for you!

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This is so sad, but true.

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WHO IS PICKING OUR LEADERS?

An educated voter is America's best asset.
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Bailout- What They Say When We Aren't Listening

Quote:
Various readers wrote us, and it was confirmed by a detailed report on the call at DealBreaker, that the Treasury Department held a conference call this evening for analysts on the bailout bill. A memo was evidently sent to SIFMA members; others may have been contacted by other means. But the report I got from one person who was on the call was the the questions came from financial services industry members. In other words, this was most assuredly not intended to be a call open to the public at large. If anyone from the media or other member of the great unwashed was listening in, it was by accident.

This is simply scandalous. To have a group of interested parties get a privileged briefing by government officials on a matter of keen public interest flies in the face of what a democracy is supposed to be about. The proper method would either be a published FAQ on the Treasury website or a briefing with the media included. But why should I be surprised? Favoritism has been a staple of the Bush Administration.

Link

Someone somehow ended up making a rough recording of this conference call (and making notes which are below. I'm uploading the mp3 on our server if you want to download it, it's 17mb and 42 mins long. You can download if from RR's server here, or you can download the torrent here.

This is really shady and should not be allowed, especially when so much of our tax payer dollars are at stake.

Remember that we, the public weren't supposed to hear these things, and it's because of these very issues that I'm glad the bill failed. But they're going to continue pushing for this crap, and we need to call our congresspeople and our newspapers and let everyone know about this and what they're really planning when they don't think the public is listening. This will be the biggest financial giveaway in American history. Feel free to forward this!

Notes people have made upon listening to the call..I am posting a few, you can read them all at the original post...My additions in red:

1 The tranching is a mere formality, and the Treasury boys as much as said so. They could take the $700 billion max as soon as the bill has passed,

5. The exec comp provisions sound like a joke, They DO NOT affect existing contracts, they affect only contracts entered into during the two years of the authority of this program and then affect only golden parachutes (definition of golden parachutes). More detail on that point, but I don't need more detail to get the drift of the gist.

2) Waiting a couple of weeks because no one has any idea when or where the next bomb will blow up. In other words, all their doomsday scenarios about Black Monday were B.S. They screamed the check had to be written by Monday, but now they're saying they actually have a few weeks before they need to cash it. Plus, this will allow them to "seek guidance" from GS, JPM, and other selfless public servants about where the money should be funneled.

The tap dancing (reason they are saying they aren't going to act for a couple of weeks even though this is some huge crisis) is because they don't want it to get out that they'll be giving a sweetheart deal. The public won't be following each individual transaction to see exactly what price is being paid. So ridiculously overpriced asset sales can be hidden in the details, and by the time some reporter (or blogger Smile combs through and analyzes the transactions, the deed will have been done. But if Paulson makes a statement that assets will be bought at par before the bailout's even begun, that will be reported and might kill the deal. (Thats why this conference call was supposed to be private)

If you come to the Treasury and you are in trouble, you get reamed. Bear/AIG style treatment, execs probably fired. But if you participate on a voluntary basis, the intent is to make it very user friendly. (They actually say that in the call, they want to make it user friendly...what is this, some sort of tea party??) That is consistent with Paulson's position during the negotiations.

In other words, we need to sweeten the pot to encourage banks to come "voluntarily". Pardon my ignorance, but why the hell should we be begging banks to borrow from us? I thought a bailout should be the absolute last option for a bank. I.e., it should be so unpalatable, so unprofitable for a bank and its executives that they exhaust every private means of survival before coming for their public "reaming". I wonder if foreclosed homeowners would rate their foreclosure process as "user friendly".

Eligibility: as broad participation by institutions as possible. The
more participation, the more effective it will be. Want banks of all
sizes or any financial institution that has a meaningful presence in
the US to be interested and enthusiastic. (Can you say massive giveaway?!)

Purpose is to help private sector clean up their balance sheets. (I have debt, but I don't see them wanting to help clean up MY balance sheet.)

Market mechanism: Congress wanted taxpayer benefit in upside. Sell
warrants for assets over $100M , but the amount of warrants is still
TBD. WE want healthy institutions to participate so it should not be
punitive. (Why not punitive? If I don't pay my bills, I get in trouble. But not big time banks that rape homeowners with outlandish mortgages and lines of credit they know people can't afford..nah, they get bailouts.)

Quote from the call: It requires us to take warrants at the Secretary's discretion ... in the direct case [i.e. a seizure of a failing institution] we will be very aggressive in taking warrants for the taxpayer benefit. ... Companies that sell over $100 million dollars into this fund must give warrants.

The warrants we can set at whatever level we want to set, it's not specified. We want to set that at a level so there is some upside for the taxpayers, but also encourages all firms to participate. This goes back to the spirit that we don't want just failing institutions to participate but also healthy firms to participate. Having that discretion was very very important to us.

Healthy firms are not only able but encouraged to come in and take taxpayers for $100 million, with no downside for them and no upside for us. (we're basically giving $100 million to any bank for free, no need to pay back as long as it's not over $100 million) While the Treasury will be very aggressive about taking stock options on failing institutions, when healthy institutions come for their checks, the Treasury will set the price of the warrant at whatever level is high enough to keep the firm at the trough. (The point should be to save sick institutions, not just have a massive giveaway program to banks that aren't in crisis!)

Clawback of taxpayer losses:
1. it's a long way out, "a lot can happen in that time"
2. it's targeted at all financial institutions, not just participants! (that means it will never happen)
3. would need more congressional and presidential action to implement this.

Tranching of $700B (I didn't know that was a limit)

Entire 700B is appropriated entirely by the act, no further appropriation necessary.

Tranching: first $250B
Then Secretary determines that more is needed and tells Congress, another $100B
Then Secretary determines that more is needed and Congress has 15 days to refuse, the remaining $350B

No time limits. Can request all the tranches at once, no need for delays.

To block the last $350B, Congress has to say no. Then the President can
veto that. To override that veto, Congress needs 2/3 majority.

ALL of that must happen within 15 days, otherwise the money goes out.

Can't the President wait and veto it with one minute left in the 15 days?

I want to thank Lindsey and The People Speak Radio for passing this along.

A WORD FROM MR. TELEPROMPTER

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Obama is truly a fool without a script.



Also to bring back some memories.
Last night on paltalk the servers went down. voos room had 143 people in it.15 minutes later when the servers came back up i started watching the room numbers from all rooms.
After 1 hour all rooms got back to thier normal numbers range except one.
voos room, it had 73 people in it. half of the total just 20 minutes before.
The reason for this is as i stated months ago is nearly half of the members in his room at any time are there just to leave thier nic`s in there to help his numbers and his ego. and by the way with 143 people, there were only 2 hands up.
I kept an eye out on the numbers and they stayed that way give or take a few till about 6 am in the morning.
Dead nics and bots for numbers.
poor voo.

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God bless Bill Clinton

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Will the democrats listen to Bill Clinton?

{probably not}

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Do you want this party to be in power?

Pay attension democrats.

ENJOY




Notice who was sticking up for franklin Raines?
Why am i not suprised.

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